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	<title>Comments on: Economic Development:  Move to Kingsport area if you want low pay and lack of good paying jobs</title>
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		<title>By: dorisearly</title>
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		<dc:creator>dorisearly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>give the $.25 back to the property owners.</description>
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		<title>By: dorisearly</title>
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		<dc:creator>dorisearly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.  I would not spend 37.4 mil on an aquatic center.
2.  Offer tax incentives to manufacturing and other industry .  We have a lot of WAREHOUSE SPACE  here.
3.  Fix the Road and Streets.  Hire people to fix the street from this area do not go to Oregon to hire people. 
4. Do away with 9.5 % sales tax and cut it back to 6% .  Have a referendum vote on giving the added .25  .  NOT DANCING GIRLS and that is a typical thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.  I would not spend 37.4 mil on an aquatic center.<br />
2.  Offer tax incentives to manufacturing and other industry .  We have a lot of WAREHOUSE SPACE  here.<br />
3.  Fix the Road and Streets.  Hire people to fix the street from this area do not go to Oregon to hire people.<br />
4. Do away with 9.5 % sales tax and cut it back to 6% .  Have a referendum vote on giving the added .25  .  NOT DANCING GIRLS and that is a typical thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: sinergy</title>
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		<dc:creator>sinergy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another bad problem is. We keep getting sold that these &quot;investments&quot; create jobs. We where told that meadowview would bring in industry and all skill level jobs. The government can not create jobs nor can it wealth. It has to take them from somewhere. Kings for example is said the same thing it will create jobs. I think the same thing was/is used for aqualand. It simply does not. When you have no fear of failure because you a propped by a communist government taking from the citizen their fruits and labor then what incentive do you have to exceed?
.-= sinergy´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://easttn.blogivists.com/?p=196&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;moved&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another bad problem is. We keep getting sold that these &#8220;investments&#8221; create jobs. We where told that meadowview would bring in industry and all skill level jobs. The government can not create jobs nor can it wealth. It has to take them from somewhere. Kings for example is said the same thing it will create jobs. I think the same thing was/is used for aqualand. It simply does not. When you have no fear of failure because you a propped by a communist government taking from the citizen their fruits and labor then what incentive do you have to exceed?<br />
.-= sinergy´s last blog ..<a href="http://easttn.blogivists.com/?p=196" rel="nofollow">moved</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: tn vol</title>
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		<dc:creator>tn vol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>During a debate Ben Malicote said he didn&#039;t want to attract &quot;smoke stack factories&quot; to Kingsport and now Kingsport is reaping the &quot;benefits&quot; of this policy. Kingsport Times News is just a propaganda machine for the BMA and their cronies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During a debate Ben Malicote said he didn&#8217;t want to attract &#8220;smoke stack factories&#8221; to Kingsport and now Kingsport is reaping the &#8220;benefits&#8221; of this policy. Kingsport Times News is just a propaganda machine for the BMA and their cronies.</p>
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		<title>By: sinergy</title>
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		<dc:creator>sinergy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would give tax breaks from cutting all this junk off our books. Imagine if we got rid of all this money flowing out or pockets we never see. Last I looked it was 4,231 per person in Kingsport. 

Current problem
 No jobs for middle class. There are little jobs for people in the market at above min wage. This creates a problem Those people will not move here. Those are the people that raise average size families. In the past they use to be hired at Eastman (problem they still are the same ones), they still work there and their kids have nowhere to work they have to move and leave the area. Knoxville and Nashville are getting our 20 and 30 somethings. If we are &quot;recruiting the individual&quot; would it not be wise to make the individual less taxed? 

Solution: cut spending reduce taxes. This allows the middle income to move back, others now can afford to live here except low income that lives off government, and high income all the dr&#039;s &amp; nurses we have here.
.-= sinergy´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://easttn.blogivists.com/?p=196&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;moved&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would give tax breaks from cutting all this junk off our books. Imagine if we got rid of all this money flowing out or pockets we never see. Last I looked it was 4,231 per person in Kingsport. </p>
<p>Current problem<br />
 No jobs for middle class. There are little jobs for people in the market at above min wage. This creates a problem Those people will not move here. Those are the people that raise average size families. In the past they use to be hired at Eastman (problem they still are the same ones), they still work there and their kids have nowhere to work they have to move and leave the area. Knoxville and Nashville are getting our 20 and 30 somethings. If we are &#8220;recruiting the individual&#8221; would it not be wise to make the individual less taxed? </p>
<p>Solution: cut spending reduce taxes. This allows the middle income to move back, others now can afford to live here except low income that lives off government, and high income all the dr&#8217;s &amp; nurses we have here.<br />
.-= sinergy´s last blog ..<a href="http://easttn.blogivists.com/?p=196" rel="nofollow">moved</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Montana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Montana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting discussion!  

But what would you propose be done to address the declining population, low wages, high unemployment in Kingport, retail sales not keeping up with inflation, etc.

If you were to give an incentive to a new company to get them to locate here, would you do it or let them go to another state.

If you gave them a tax incentive to be applied against future tax bills, would that be ok?  Would that be ok as long as you didn&#039;t give them money upfront or money that has to given by the taxpayers.

Maybe, having &lt;strong&gt;dancing girls&lt;/strong&gt; to attract new business is all we need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting discussion!  </p>
<p>But what would you propose be done to address the declining population, low wages, high unemployment in Kingport, retail sales not keeping up with inflation, etc.</p>
<p>If you were to give an incentive to a new company to get them to locate here, would you do it or let them go to another state.</p>
<p>If you gave them a tax incentive to be applied against future tax bills, would that be ok?  Would that be ok as long as you didn&#8217;t give them money upfront or money that has to given by the taxpayers.</p>
<p>Maybe, having <strong>dancing girls</strong> to attract new business is all we need.</p>
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		<title>By: marc tombrello</title>
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		<dc:creator>marc tombrello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>News in Kingsport, TN. is what I look for on this website.  It&#039;s good to see some new news that the KTN will not touch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>News in Kingsport, TN. is what I look for on this website.  It&#8217;s good to see some new news that the KTN will not touch.</p>
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		<title>By: marc tombrello</title>
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		<dc:creator>marc tombrello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mallicote is the one that calls alot of the shots on the BMA because he is a lawyer.  I can&#039;t stand what we are up against .  I have to fight against the spirit of APATHY.  Thanks Doris for the reminder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mallicote is the one that calls alot of the shots on the BMA because he is a lawyer.  I can&#8217;t stand what we are up against .  I have to fight against the spirit of APATHY.  Thanks Doris for the reminder.</p>
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		<title>By: doris early</title>
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		<dc:creator>doris early</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way the BMA can spin the figures for this area is amazing.</description>
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		<title>By: doris early</title>
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		<dc:creator>doris early</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Pat,  Just yesterday I was at home.  There is a little circle where I live and a park.  Many times , not just during fun fest. Hot Air balloons come here and fillup and take off from our little park for practice.  Yesterday was that kind of a day.  We had a visit from &quot;Rosey&quot; the hotair balloon.  We walked over and watch and swang and mainly talked to the owner of Rosey the balloon.  They are sponsored by Indian Path Hospital.  They were very concerned about the BMA in Kingsport.  They begged us to be sure and let them know ......exactly what we were telling them (the owners of Rosey) that the only thing we REALLY love is the HOT AIR BALLOON RACE.  They are afraid they are going to lose their sponsorship .  I told them that It doesn&#039;t make sense to me that the monies aren&#039;t there like they use to be because.  Kingsport, TN received approx. 4mill. in stimulus from Obama. They are charging much higher prices for WHAT THEY are still doing at funfest. The owners of ROSEY have a problem with Mallicote , Phillips ....well they think he really .  However, they had much good to say about PAT SHULL.  We laughed and joked about the amount of people that voted in the election . Also, we lamented about how shamelessly the BMA campaigned AGAINST one of their own....PAT SHULL.  Sinery I think the tax break was 28 mil. for TEC.  With Obama&#039;s Tax on the uncapped emmissions TEC may be gone or own by CHINA.  This town is now coming down on the side of banning guns by permit holders to be carried into parks.  Parks that our tax dollars are paying for and will , no doubt, continue to rise to help them (the gang of 6 ) pay for  Meadowview.  Kingsport is in sad shape.  Our Wholesales Hardware Business could not have a convention at meadowview it&#039;s too small.  We had 600 vendors at our last one we had to hold the convention in Cinncinati.  It will never stop with this meadowview thing .  I just want more people to lose the APATHY and go to the BMA and tell the gang what you think.  Instead it&#039;s people that are FOR Denny and the others that go and feed his already bloated ego.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Pat,  Just yesterday I was at home.  There is a little circle where I live and a park.  Many times , not just during fun fest. Hot Air balloons come here and fillup and take off from our little park for practice.  Yesterday was that kind of a day.  We had a visit from &#8220;Rosey&#8221; the hotair balloon.  We walked over and watch and swang and mainly talked to the owner of Rosey the balloon.  They are sponsored by Indian Path Hospital.  They were very concerned about the BMA in Kingsport.  They begged us to be sure and let them know &#8230;&#8230;exactly what we were telling them (the owners of Rosey) that the only thing we REALLY love is the HOT AIR BALLOON RACE.  They are afraid they are going to lose their sponsorship .  I told them that It doesn&#8217;t make sense to me that the monies aren&#8217;t there like they use to be because.  Kingsport, TN received approx. 4mill. in stimulus from Obama. They are charging much higher prices for WHAT THEY are still doing at funfest. The owners of ROSEY have a problem with Mallicote , Phillips &#8230;.well they think he really .  However, they had much good to say about PAT SHULL.  We laughed and joked about the amount of people that voted in the election . Also, we lamented about how shamelessly the BMA campaigned AGAINST one of their own&#8230;.PAT SHULL.  Sinery I think the tax break was 28 mil. for TEC.  With Obama&#8217;s Tax on the uncapped emmissions TEC may be gone or own by CHINA.  This town is now coming down on the side of banning guns by permit holders to be carried into parks.  Parks that our tax dollars are paying for and will , no doubt, continue to rise to help them (the gang of 6 ) pay for  Meadowview.  Kingsport is in sad shape.  Our Wholesales Hardware Business could not have a convention at meadowview it&#8217;s too small.  We had 600 vendors at our last one we had to hold the convention in Cinncinati.  It will never stop with this meadowview thing .  I just want more people to lose the APATHY and go to the BMA and tell the gang what you think.  Instead it&#8217;s people that are FOR Denny and the others that go and feed his already bloated ego.</p>
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		<title>By: sinergy</title>
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		<dc:creator>sinergy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AMEN!
This is called corporate welfare. Grants here grants there this money is being stole from all of us, only to given to a few. 

If we can give one a tax incentive say 26mil break (Eastman). That means we are taxed too much. Imagine if we didn&#039;t have to pay 1.3mil a year to MeadowView 14mil to a water park. another 300,000 for flowers, over 300,000 for lights in a park that many if not most will never see. WE are spending at rates we can not keep up with, rates we can not back up. 250,000 to warriors golf mountain, another 350,000 to cattails.

We have no economic freedom
.-= sinergy´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://easttn.blogivists.com/?p=196&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;moved&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AMEN!<br />
This is called corporate welfare. Grants here grants there this money is being stole from all of us, only to given to a few. </p>
<p>If we can give one a tax incentive say 26mil break (Eastman). That means we are taxed too much. Imagine if we didn&#8217;t have to pay 1.3mil a year to MeadowView 14mil to a water park. another 300,000 for flowers, over 300,000 for lights in a park that many if not most will never see. WE are spending at rates we can not keep up with, rates we can not back up. 250,000 to warriors golf mountain, another 350,000 to cattails.</p>
<p>We have no economic freedom<br />
.-= sinergy´s last blog ..<a href="http://easttn.blogivists.com/?p=196" rel="nofollow">moved</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Shull</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Shull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that this falls under the heading of &quot;be careful what you ask for, you might get it&quot;.  In other words,when people keep demanding more government involvement, then politicians use that as a rationale to increase the size of government and to rush into economic development &quot;deals&quot; that may turn out to be bad over the long run (10 years or more).  Typical of these are the tax incentives we shower on some businesses.  By the time it is apparent that the deal was not cost effective, the elected folks that orchestrated the deal are out of office. 

 Unfortunately we have a recent history in Kingsport of our officials spreading the costs out over a large base (all the taxpayers) to build projects that significantly help a few special interests.  And you want to trust these folks to do deals with private industry?  Seems to me we need more Free Market and less government involvement.  Pat Shull</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that this falls under the heading of &#8220;be careful what you ask for, you might get it&#8221;.  In other words,when people keep demanding more government involvement, then politicians use that as a rationale to increase the size of government and to rush into economic development &#8220;deals&#8221; that may turn out to be bad over the long run (10 years or more).  Typical of these are the tax incentives we shower on some businesses.  By the time it is apparent that the deal was not cost effective, the elected folks that orchestrated the deal are out of office. </p>
<p> Unfortunately we have a recent history in Kingsport of our officials spreading the costs out over a large base (all the taxpayers) to build projects that significantly help a few special interests.  And you want to trust these folks to do deals with private industry?  Seems to me we need more Free Market and less government involvement.  Pat Shull</p>
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